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we're looking at the new voter id laws. we're talking about the football calls that sent everyone into a frenzy. just 42 days until elections. the battle over voter ids is intensifying in sever states. tens of thousands you may not have your votes counted. tote in pennsylvania, the state is trying to prove that it's new voter id law will not is enfranchise voters. and a justice department decision is being discussed in another state. >> can they hear us across the street? >> reporter: as the pennsylvania supreme court pree paired to hear argue lts on the new voter id law, the naacp protested what they call a thinly veiled

attempt to suppress voters. >> we have seen more states, pushing more laws, pushing more voters out of the ballot box than we have seen in the past 100 years. >> reporter: it is a scene played out in states across the country. civil rights groups pushing back against voter id laws. >> the effort to change the rules of the game at the last minute is a really misguided effort. >> reporter: wednesdndy wiser s hundreds of voters may not have the right id. the elderly, college students, poor people, blacks and latinos. groups that traditionally vote democratic. >> we have to make sure there is no fraud in our elections. we should not pass laws that are unnecessary that exclude people from participating equally in

our democracy. >> reporter: the new voter id laws protect against voter impersonation. it's a problem, says john fun, an expert on the subject. >> if someone walks in and votes in the name of a dead person, they don't have to show id, how likely is that dead person to intervene? >> reporter: the justice department or state and federal courts have block td this in three states. texas, wisconsin, south carolina, which is currently appealing. pennsylvania is pending. alabama and mississippi need the green light from the justice department. of the eight, only tennessee and kansas voters have to meet the tough standards. >> we want to make it easy to vote and tough to cheat. we can do both. >> reporter: and with both sides

fighting against any voter being disenfranchised in november, neither side wants to give up. some say it's an unnecessary attempt to roll back voter rights. will many, many voters be confused and unable to comply? joining me now is john avlon. listen to mrs. obama over the weekend. >> we cannot let anyone discourage us from casting our ballots. we cannot make anyone make it feel unwelcome in the voting booth. it's up to us to make sure that in every election, every voice is heard and every vote is counted. that means making sure our laws preserve that right. monitoring the polls to make sure every eligible voter can exercise that right. >> so john, so many new laws.

so many different requirements now. poll workers are going to have a field day trying to figure out what it all means. is there the potential for chaos at the polls come november? >> is there the potential? absolutely. we're changing the rules. that leads to a degree of uncertainty. people who haven't had to show id befo i.d. before in certain states will have to do so. some folks may be afraid of that. we have a tortured history of voting rights in this country. laws strike an emotional button. we have instances in the past of voter fraud. the fact that this has happened in so many states in the last two years does strike many people as, in effect, a policy brushback pitch. we should be able to agree that we want everyone to be able to vote and to be able to show there's though fraud at the same time. it's a delicate balance. >> another thing john fund said

is this isintegrity on both sides. what does this do, fundamentally to voter confidence? a lot of people saying, they're telling me it's not that difficult. i can't take the day. i don't have the time. i'm not going to renew my license. they'll self-disenfranchise. >> one of the great effects we should be making is ensuring that everyone who is eligible to vote does vote. declining turnout is a real problem. that is something we should confront with the full force of the public policy. when this confusion occurs, it can be a disincentive. the other problem, with early voting, all the mail-in ballots, the whole issue of fraud is not addressed in those states.

the remedies in many cases don't address the problem. as the pennsylvania attorney general said, there's no specific incident of voter fraud they could point to as a reason for the law. that further complicates it and adds the partisan aura. >> the voter i.d. law is only meant to stop in-person voter impersonation but without a sweeping overhaul of the system when it comes to registration, absentee ballots. every state is different. there's always going to be this okay, well, who is going to be the next florida, basically. >> that is a real danger. we have a federal system. we do have 50 different versions of voter laws in place. there are some proposals for more comprehensive incentive. there's voter registration modernization.

it tried to take the physical paperwork out of the registration process. to digitize efforts. have stale rolls make sure that every voter is enrolled. that should be something we could agree on. we should be aable to agree, democrat, republican, or independent. >> all right, john avlon for us. no voter wants to see the election in the courts. thank you so much. here's what we're working on for you this hour. president obama on the world stage today with a high-stakes speech, issuing a new warning to iran. plus, tracking your health can technology. there's an app for pretty much everything from losing weight to checking your sleep patterns. should you use your smart phone as your doctor? and -- >> going to spring back into

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president obama tells world leaders that the clock is ticking on iran. the president warned against allowing iran to develop nuclear weapons. >> make no mistake, a nuclear-armed iran is not a challenge that can be contained. it would threaten the stability of the global economy. it risks triggering a nuclear arms race in the region. that's why a coalition of countries is holding the iranian government accountable. the united states will do what we must to prevent iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. >> the president's speeches at the u.n. and the clinton global

initiative put him on the stage. jessica, there was tough talk on iran. the president seemed to counter some of the remarks made by president ahmadinejad, who, for all intents and purposes, could be the last time he's in the united states as a member of the general alembssembassembly. what was the line the president took on iran? >> he took a tough line. this is an existential fight on israel. he said time is not unlimited for the world to stop iran from pursuing nuclear ambitions. weapons ambitions. he said that the u.s. will do what it must to stop it. another way of saying, indirectly, that all options are on the table.

he's effectively taking the sam stance he gave earlier this year. but, he didn't go -- didn't go further and draw any red lines or new lines which is what the romney campaign was calling on him to do. it would be astonishing if he would do that at this stage, only for election purposes in a campaign season. i mean this is what you would expect a president to do. he took the line that he's firmly drawn to date. >> diplomacy, sanctions on iranian crude oil and the banks that handle that. in the red line, that means, what does that mean? military action? i think that -- nobody wants to go there. >> well, what's he going to do? spell out if iran crosses this line, then there will be an attack? that is not language that the president has used before. so it would be an enormous departure to do that here today. so it's not the administration's

policy. it would -- no one expected him to say that today. >> okay, now, also, the president really addressed those -- the violent attack t that have been spurred because of this anti-muslim video. and really saying, extremists use violence because they have nothing else. they don't have jobs. they're not creating a better society. what else was rethe trying to convey to the people there? 120 countries? >> he was talking to a global audience and a domestic political audience of voters who maybe are just starting to pay attention. to the global audience, talking about america's values. that america values the freedom of religion and the freedom of speech. the freedom of the videomakers to make a video that was offensive and deplorable in the president's mind and the mind of my m

many muslims. >> i have made it clear that the united states government had nothing to do with the video. its message must be rejected by all who respect our common humanity. it's an insult not only to muslims but to america as well. for as the city outside these walls makes clear, we're a country that have waumd people of every race and faith. we are home to muslims who worship across our country. we not only respect the freedom of religion we have laws that protect individuals from being harmed because of how they look or what they believe. >> but he also, deb, bracketed the speech, beginning and end, with talk of ambassador stevens and his death, calling it a crisis. the violence that incited it in the middle east. that this is no bump in the road. as he said on "60 minutes."

>> all right, jessica yellin, thank you so much. tomorrow, we'll hear from leaders of the arab spring and president ahmadinejad. not to be outdone in the foreign policy debate, mitt romney took the stage, too. he was at the clinton global initiative earlier this morning. former president clinton introduced him. he took a swipe at the obama administration by noting the current state of fairs overseas. >> syria has witnessed the killing of tens of thousands of people. the president of egypt is a member of the muslim brotherhood. the ambassador to libya was killed in a terrorist attack. iran is moving toward flunuclea weapons capabilities. we feel like we're at the mercy of events rather than starting

events. >> mr. romney reiterated that -- it's the call everyone is talk about. packers versus seahawks. should the players union pull the members off the field to support the nfl referees? i'm barack obama and i approve this message. romney: "it's time to stand up to the cheaters" vo: tough on china? not mitt romney. when a flood of chinese tires threatened a thousand american jobs... it was president obama who stood up to china and protected american workers. mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side?

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so if you don't think the nfl referees need to be back on the field, well, then you probably missed the monday night football game between the green bay packers and the seattle sea hawks. take a look at this. >> the game's final play. wilson loft to the end zone. which is -- fought for by tate with jennings simultaneous. who has it? who do they give it to? touchdown! >> who caught it? that's the source of the controversy. this is likely to be the most controversial call in the last few weeks. what looked like an interception for the packers was ruled as a touchdown for the seahawks. fans and players are outraged over the nfl lockout of the referees. here to sort out what our

executive producer calls a hot mess is our sports illustrated's ben rider. it looked like an interception. what say you? >> it was an interception. the play should not have gotten that far. if we look at the tape, we see golden tate, the seattle sea hawks wide receiver push off sam shields. that is clearly offensive pass interference. that wasn't called either. at the end of the day, the inevitable have happened. the replacement referees botched a call that decided the outcome of the game. they did it on a national stage on "monday night football" and to one of the nfl's most storied franchises, the green bay packers. >> it's come down to being a hot mess. the players have been screaming. they want their referees back. the league should tend lockout. where are the players?

putting their money where their mouths are. why not say we're not going to play if you don't bring back our refs? is that too much? >> that's the one thing that could cause immediate change here. look at social media, players are going wild about this. they're very angry. using obscenities. drew brees, one of the most prominent players, excoriated the nfl for having the replacement refs on the field. when pushes comes to shove and means sacrificing game checks of $1 million or more in some cases, it won't happen. the players were locked out last year, they caved to the league. to expect them to go on strike on behalf of the referees, that's a step too far. >> this could be the season that has an asterisk next to it because so many games were sort of questionable as to the calls. do you know how much money the nfl is going lose to this? this is really -- this could

ultimately hurt their bottom line. >> that's the problem here. the nfl so far at least is not losing a dime. viewership is at an all-time high. we talk about the integrity of the game, that's one thing. that could have a long-term effect. but as far as the mistakes causing an immediate change as far as the league's stand versus the refs, it's not going to happen. >> it's like watching a constant ble blooper reel. thank you so much. something every parent thinks about. their kids apsz education. where you live makes a difference. we'll look at mitt romney and barack obama's plans for reform. hey, i love your cereal there --

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the difference between mitt romney and the president when it comes to education. >> reporter: at this school in potomac, maryland, first graders are learning their math lesson in chinese. part of an immersion program. other schools at the same time are so strapped, they've been forced to consider letting go on librarians, cutting bus ruoutes and eliminating other programs. the education system as a whole is lagging when compared to other countries. the u.s. ranks 14th in reading, 17th in science, 25th in math. how to fix the education system was front and center in chicago this month, as teachers walked off the job over issues of longer school days, merit pay, and teacher evaluations. education reform is an issue in

the campaign. president obama and mitt romney both favor expanding charter schools, support standardized tests and want more accountability from teachers and prince palace. the two men have significant disagreements. >> i think the main differences when it comes to education come in the area of school choice. gochler romney sees a robust role in choice. president obama has been skeptical of vouchers. >> reporter: romney supports taking federal dollars, title i funds, and giving them to parents in the form of vouchers. >> for the first time in history, federal education funds will be linked to the student, so that parents can send their child to any public or charter school of their choice. >> reporter: the obama administration is staunchly opposed. why not expand vouchers?

give parents more choices? >> the goal can't be to remove the one child from the system and let the other 500 drown. we have to make every school a great, great school. we need to make public schools schools of choice. >> reporter: education secretary arne duncan is using federal dollars for states to raise public standards. he wants school districts to adopt common standards so what a child learns in kansas is the same as in ohio. the obama administration has given states billions in stimulus dollars to reform schools. that brings us to another big difference. finding. >> we think of education as an inve investment. they look at it as an expense. congressman ryan's budget would see 200,000 less children go to head start. huge cutbacks in funding for poor children.

huge cutbacks for children with special needs. >> reporter: it's unclear if romney would follow through on the cuts proposed by his running mate. we reached out to the campaign. they did not make anyone available for comment. the heritage foundation says spending should be reigned in. >> we have a tremendous increase in spending but nothing to show for it in terms of results. it's not about more spending. it's about empowering parents are control over how we spend those dollars. >> reporter: on no child left behind, both candidates say the law needs to be fixed. romney asks for transparency. the obama administration has granted waivers to 33 states and the district of columbia to come up with new ways to measure progress. on this much, both men agree. the nation can't afford to fail its students. >> and lisa sill vooylvester jo

from washington. we are heard about teaching to tests. kids learning the standardized testing. is that likely to change? >> boast mitt romney and president obama both support standardized tests and the notion of giving students across the country the same tests and being able to measure progress and to have accountability. so in that sense, these standardized tests are likely to stay. but there's a recognition that many schools know what is going to be tested. when they have limited amount of classroom instruction time, teachers are just focusing on those items on the test. not giving students a broader education. that is one of the things that as people look at education reform, teachers and parents are saying that needs to change. the real crux of this is how to you maintain the standardized testing but still able to teach

children in a very broadway as well, deb. >> absolutely. make them curious about life. thank you, lisa. well, home prices, they are up, returning to the best level in nine years. we'll show you the cities that are doing well. i'm barack obama and i approve this message. romney: "it's time to stand up to the cheaters" vo: tough on china? not mitt romney. when a flood of chinese tires threatened a thousand american jobs... it was president obama who stood up to china and protected american workers. mitt romney attacked obama's decision...

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so this week, we're focusing on our role in society and how we use technology every day to improve our lives. many of you are using apps and other devices to monitor your health. mood, heart monitors, and fitbits, to clock how many steps you take a day. larry smarr joins us from california. and elizabeth cohen joins me as well. larry, you're so totally into this. you took your own stool sample, stored it in your refrigerator to send it to a lab.

some may think that's going too far. what do your friends and family think about what you're doing? digitally tracking your entire health. >> you have to learn about a lot more numbers of your body to control your health. the fit bit i have measured my steps the when i'm on the elliptical, i'm using a heart rate monitor running the machine. you know, you spend a third of your life sleeping, you don't know what it is. i know every 30 seconds. i have blood pressure, one of the most important things for preventing heart attacks. i measure that a couple of times a day. then yes, here's the feared stool sample container. it's a sterile test tube. people think blood samples are good. they are. but your stool is an much more information rich material. it has about half your back tier

yas. bacteria is about half of it. it has tremendous information about your health or disease. take an mri, get the data. they can print out a 3-d version of my colon with inflammation in it. >> isn't this maybe obsessive? you wake up, maybe you feel good, don't feel good. why do you need to know all this information? >> there's a myth that if you feel good, there's nothing wrong with you. that's just false. i felt good, turned out i had a chronic incurable disease, crohn's disease. i spend mess time on this than most people do on watching sports. >> hmm, all right. elizabeth, what do you think about using the gadgets to

monitor your health? and i think on some levels to self-diagnose? >> i encourage people to be empowered patients. this is great stuff. you can find things that your doctor may not find. you're looking at sort of every minute of your day. he said he discovered his own crohn's disease. i worry that some people will look at the data and be overly confident about sbreinterpretin on their own. learn from this, share it with your d doctor. this is not a replacement for going to the doctor. you are not a doctor. >> do you go to a doctor? you to take the results of everything you're discovering about yourself and consult, collaborate with a physician?

>> that's exactly what i do. i have the head of the gast gastrointestinal program here. two of three cardio doctors. i'm talking to one of the experts today about n the gut. i believe in the collaborative approach. the doctor's got ten minutes with you. if you have not been spending the time to understand yourself and bring the data to the doctor, they don't have enough time to really analyze this. i respect the little time that i have with someone as highly trained as my drr, as -- doctor, as highly experienced. i want to make the best use of his time. >> he dig nosed his own crohn's disease or realized there was a larger problem with it. is there something, for example, where you get too consumed with

your health. maybe in a way gnat sun natthat unnatural. seems to me you stop living and you're constantly monitoring. >> you might get medical student syndrome. they're known for becoming overly obsessed with their health. every sneeze must be a lung disease. every bump must be cancer. they get obsessed about it. we have heard stories about people who get invested online and develop this syndrome. you don't want that to happen to you. >> i happen to be a scientist, a lifetime scientist. i'm used to working with data, formi ining hypotheses, too. i lye a rich life. >>. >> you're informed and you're

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model? you really struggled with your weight, didn't you? >> yeah, i, you know, i'm just -- i'm naturally just a bigger size. >> reporter: 6'2", a size 12, and proud of it. >> i'm happy with who i am. why do i have to change for a size zero frame. >> reporter: the 23-year-old australian began her career as a traditional model, at age 16. always fighting to lose weight, rarely winning the battle. for a time she quit. then one day -- >> i saw an australian plus sized model doing really well and i googled plus sized modeling, had no idea it even existed really and, you know, i found photos of other models doing amazing editorial and i was, like, i can do this. >> reporter: look at her now, on the covers of vogue italia, french elle and her latest gig, an ad campaign for ralph lauren. the first time that company has ever hired a plus sized model. >> it is a huge feat.

she is setting the tone for, you know, what the curve market is becoming. >> it was my first actual real big designer to use me in my whole career. so that was -- that was how big of a deal it was for me. and it is such an iconic brand. >> reporter: making a statement that real women look less like this, and more like this. >> remember, the mirror can be your best friend or your worst enemy. >> i think it is back into more curvy, you know, with madmen and the tv seeming to embrace a curvier figure, they want to see that. women want to see that. >> reporter: they want to see women who look like them. >> it is relatable. >> reporter: so is lawly's love for food. >> it looks amazing. there is no love sincerer than food. >> reporter: that's right. she even has a food blog, called robin lawly eats. >> that's something i made and photographed. so that -- >> reporter: yum. she calls it -- food porn.

>> yes. that's what i look up in my spare time. >> reporter: a model who hopes one day to not just grace the covers of magazines, but walk the catwalk too. >> i want to be on every runway and a few girls in every runway, as well as different ethnicities or different ages. >> reporter: an opportunity. >> yeah. and that's what we can shine. >> reporter: alina cho, cnn. "cnn newsroom" continues right now with brooke baldwin. hey, brooke. >> hey, good to see you. good to see all of you. i'm brooke baldwin. we begin in new york city, taking center stage in the presidential campaign, mitt romney and president barack obama making major foreign policy speeches today before global audiences. romney at the clinton global initiative, the president speaking there as well, but more importantly president obama addressing the united nations today and he hit on a lot of topics, iran, talked syria, condemned the deadly

anti-american protests that rippled across the american world. i want to play some of this for you. this is when the president gets personal. he's calling for patience and restraint. >> like me, the majority of americans are christian and yesterday we do not ban blasphemy against our most sacred beliefs. as president of our country, and commander in chief of our military, i accept that people are going to call me awful things every day. and i will always defend their right to do so. >> there was some applause afterwards. cnn's chief white house correspondent jessica yellin for me outside the u.n. today. it is a very personal approach, jessica, from the president, wouldn't you agree putting himself out there saying what he did? >> reporter: he was explaining to the world, brooke, american values, and u.s. -- the value of the freedom of expression, free

speech, and also the american appreciation and protection for the freedom of religion. and so, yes, he did it in a personal way, and then he also explained that this is a video that he used the word disgusting, he called it crude, he said the u.s. government didn't endorse it, but we also in this country can't -- would never ban such a thing because that's not part of america's values. and it was part of a larger outreach to the global audience that was watching him, calling on them and their leaders to embrace tolerance and freedom of expression in their own countries, brooke. >> as he's speaking to, now, of course, people globally, i want to point out these numbers, jessica, these are numbers from the wall street journal, speaking of foreign policy here, you see the numbers, the president's foreign policy numbers dropping because you -- when they're asked, if they approve of how the president is handling foreign policy, last month, you see it was 54%, dropping to 49% in september.

when we look at this, what can we make of this, what is driving the decline? and do you think today's speech at the u.n. helped him -- helped him or hurt him? >> reporter: well, i think that the decline has in part to do with the fact that people are focusing in on foreign policy at a moment when there is a great deal of instability, nothing drives a negative reaction from the american public more than the death of americans. and so all they're hearing now is bad news at the time the world -- the nation is now focusing in during the election season. and the president has gotten a lot of points for his foreign policy because he's had such a seemingly steady hand. right now things seem so out of control overseas, it has tended to detract from that image of him as steady at the helm. this speech will probably help buffer his image and burnish his image as a steady leader, but world events will dictate that in the next few weeks more than anything else, brooke.

>> simply, jessica, what about the fact here is a president, he's in new york, and right now for a couple of days many world leaders are in new york as well to attend the general assembly and critics come forward and say why isn't he taking the time to meet with netanyahu, president hamid karzai, et cetera, when instead we see him as his republicans would like to point out, you know, showing up on "the view." why is this happening this time? >> reporter: right, you know, it is a safe approach. it is the -- it is unusual. when george bush was running for re-election in 2004, he took a nearly half dozen meetings with foreign leaders, one on one. foreign policy was more important to voters at that time than foreign policy is to voters today. you can make that argument. but for the president, you can see that potentially no good could come of a meeting with a foreign leader, say israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu if it goes awry. if he does not take a meeting,

nothing can go awry and if he blows off all the leaders, then no one individual can take offense, he can say, no, no, i was in and out of town. that's the approach they have taken and understandably they're taking deserved heat for it, brooke. i don't think will last, though. >> you don't think it will last? they are taking heat, jessica yellin. that's certain. we'll talk to you next hour. >> reporter: he's here. >> in the thick of things, here we are 42 days to go. jessica yellin, appreciate it. see you next hour. a lot more happening this hour, including this -- as critic takes on chick-fil-a, i'll speak with one student who is a key player in talks over the chain should stay on college campuses. plus, as voters start registering today, millions of latinos may not get the chance. wilmer valdarama joins me live.

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we only thought those nfl replacement refs were at the head, but monday night football gave us a moment that everybody feared. might want to get the kids out of the room if they're packers fans, move them away from the screen, because i'm going to play this for you one more time. this is the scene, time expiring, last play of the game, green bay leading seattle 12-7, seattle throws a last ditch hail mary pass, there it goes, there it goes, in the end zone, there it is caught, everyone sees the pass get intercepted by the packers, everyone, look at the refs, two different sides, everyone that is but the two replacement officials standing just a couple of feet away. watch it again with me, and then wait for the refs. one calls the touchdown, another angle, one calls it an interception. after a delay, and a check of the instant replay, it is ruled a touchdown. seattle wins, chaos on the field, fans go crazy. packer players, they're stunned. and the rest of us wondering

when is this going to end? so we wanted to talk to a football legend to talk about this, hall of famer, three-time super bowl quarterback fran tarkanen t en t tarkanton, such a pleasure to meet you. you're a legend to us. i was asking at the commercial break, were you screaming at the television along with the rest of america? >> i'm not a great packer fan because i played against them so many years, i'm a viking, but in football we play 16 games, we don't play 162 games like baseball. wins are precious. wins on the road are more precious. this win was taken away from the packers. >> taken away. >> clearly. the last play of the game, packers are ahead 12-7, and the green bay packer intercepted the ball, brought it to himself, clearly it was an interception. now, this play is not really -- when the referee on the field signals a touchdown, it is not reviewable. they cannot change it. that's a stupid rule.

because when you saw the replay, everybody knew na it was an intercepti interception, not a joint possession. and so the packers, you know, get stuck with a loss and the seattle seahawks get a reprieve. >> get the win. so you mentioned the 16 games, right, very unlike baseball where you play however many. >> 162. >> this is a precious few. you train, you practice, there is risk of injury. just explain -- >> you practice -- >> get inside the mind of the player right now. >> you practice for 12 months but we only play 16 days a year. so these games are critical. >> would you scream at the refs if you were on the field? >> yes, because these games affect coaches' careers, they may get fired or rehired. the fans go crazy. it affects the playoffs. that one game may keep you out of the playoffs, the chance for the super bowl. so many consequences of -- but we have seen it now for, what, three weeks.

the calls have been awful. and the replacement officials have been terrible. the games have been going longer. anywhere from 3 1/2 hours to 4 hours for a game. it is just ridiculous. it is driving everybody in football crazy. >> especially some of the players. let me read a couple of tweets. i don't know if you've been hip to twitter in the last 24 hours. this is drew brees, he's a quarter back for the new orleans saints. ironic that our league punishes those based on conduct detrimental. whose conduct is detrimental now. this has come into us, president obama himself took to twitter, nfl fans on both sides of the aisle, hope the refs lockout is settled soon. the president, after speaking to the general assembly of the united nations, is tweeting about what he's been watching on the field. do you think that the entire season is blown? >> no.

this has been the most exciting start of any season i've ever seen. the games have been close, they have been competitive, the level of play has been great. but the story, unfortunately, is the referees. if your story is the referees, it is bad. a few years ago, the baseball umpires were locked out and they just got rid of them. and had -- >> chucked them all. >> chucked them all and they had no problems. the nfl doesn't make many mistakes. they made a bad mistake this year on who they chose to be the replacement refries, how they trained them and how they got them ready to referee the games because now they're three weeks into the season, and it is an unmitigated disaster. and the fans are affected. the players are affected. the coaches are affected. the credibility is affected. will that keep people from watching the nfl? no. it is the greatest game in the world. and we want to watch nfl football. and i watched it until the last throw last night. and i -- that's when it happens,

right? >> i was rooting for seattle and it went the other way and i felt terrible. but belichick couldn't get a referee to tell him why whatever happened happened there. also the safety of the players. i saw matt schwab of the houston oilers have two of the hardest hits i've ever seen in my life. could have been paralyzing hit. they got a 15-yard penalty, but they should have kicked him out of the game and suspended him. >> but this is over, what, 16 million, 16 million in the next five years so half a million factored in per team. the league makes billions of dollars in revenue. >> but they got to be responsible business decisions. the real controversy is over a defined pension benefit, which corporations can't afford anymore. and they're breaking the country and they said we want to change it to a 401(k) plan and also have the accountability where the commissioner can fire you for lack of performance. they got to have that

accountability and so these are real issues that i don't think the nfl should cave in just because of this. and mess up their business model. and then it will be really bad. >> we shall see come sunday what happens, won't we? >> we will. i'm afraid more of the same. >> fran tarkanton, thank you so much. now this. so in homs they run for their lives and we do too. they have been doing it for longer than they ever expected. >> we have been telling you heart breaking stories out of syria, stories of snipers hitting children. coming up next, we're going to give you a chilling look at the other side. we follow the snipers themselves in syria. but i'm still stubbed up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus liquid gels speeds relief to your worst cold symptoms plus has a decongestant for your stuffy nose. thanks. that's the cold truth!

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dozens of people are dead and more than a million more affected by devastating floods in india. the area hit the hardest is the rajasthan state, in northeast india. the damage is also pretty bad right over the border in neighboring pakistan. you see this, floodwaters have reached rooftops in the northeastern indian state of asam. the monsoon rains also triggered multiple landslides in other areas killing dozens of people.

150,000 are hunkering down right now in relief camps. at least 50 people reportedly have been killed across syria today. add that to the death toll yesterday, that topped the 120 number. in addition to all of the aerial bombing and shelling and makeshift explosives, both the syrian army and the opposition employed one very dark and deadly tactic, snipers. the muzzles of guns barely visible through the dilapidated and war torn buildings across the country. adults are not the only ones in the cross hairs as we have been reporting. children victims as well. itn's bill neely has a chilling look from the sniper's perch. >> reporter: he is ready to kill. a syrian army sniper aims through a crack in the wall. this is the hidden front line, from their firing point they target rebel positions just 50 yards away.

every day, men die here. this is homs, the heart of the war, and here it is stalemate. the streets here are so deadly, we move through holes in walls and houses, up to near darkness and another sniper. he waits in total silence. it is never quiet for long. these syrian troops are trying to take back whole districts the rebels have held for months. they are edgy. the rebels kill five of their men just hours earlier. so in homs they run for their lives, and we do too. they have been doing it for longer than they ever expected. why is the war lasting so long? >> it will be continuing months, today, one year. we don't know. we don't know. i am ready to die.

and all these are ready to die for syria. >> reporter: one and a half years after it began, and the battle for this city and for syria grinds on relentlessly. the bombardment of homs, the war here is as intense as ever. these soldiers say they have the rebels trapped in this area. and that the battle will be over soon. whole neighborhoods here are a wasteland. the signs of battle on every building. few civilians remain. it is almost a shock to see them. in your heart, when you see your area like this -- >> well, i have no heart at all. can't imagine these roads. i feel very sorry for what has happened. >> reporter: how long will this go on for here? >> i don't know.

god only knows. god alone no god alone knows. >> reporter: few places here are safe for anyone. so as world leaders at the united nations begin to talk again of syria, deadlocked in disagreement, the snipers on both sides take their positions. death on their minds, victory in their sights. bill neely, itv news, homs. >> bill neely, thank you. so you have heard the fight over chick-fil-a. here is the deal, one guy has been in private negotiations with the company's ceo and it is all over whether the chain should be kicked off college campuses. we'll speak live with him next. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso.

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the pressure is mounting on chick-fil-a from both sides of the same sex marriage debate. in this latest turn, a city leader in chicago says chick-fil-a's president is contradicting what they promised local politicians for months and months. after ten months of negotiations, chick-fil-a, which wants to expand in chicago agreed to stop making donations to anti-gay groups. but then came this statement from dan kathy of chick-fil-a. quote, there continues to be erroneous implications in the media that chick-fil-a changed our practices and priorities in order to obtain, goes on, permission for a new restaurant in chicago. that is incorrect. chick-fil-a made no such concessions and we remain true to who we are, and who we have been. kathy tweeted thought photo last week of the winshape ride for the family, that lobbies against same sex marriage.

so which side is chick-fil-a on. let's talk to shawn winmire. five things you should know about chick-fil-a. welcome. here is what makes you so unique is the fact that you had actually spoken with dan cathy as part of your negotiations, not once, but twice, you know, take me behind the scenes here and tell me what that was like. >> sure, well, thank you, brooke, for the opportunity to be on the show today. i think it is important that people know that college campuses for over ten years have had issues around chick-fil-a and so what happened in july with dan cathy expressing his personal views i think incited a lot of college campuses to action. our organization thought it was important to not talk about dan cathy's views but to educate the consumer on five simple facts about chick-fil-a. that being where their donations

have gone to over the last, you know, roughly ten years, being about $5 million to anti-gay groups. so we launched that campaign recently because of our two sit-down meetings in atlanta with chick-fil-a. we decided to suspend, and i say suspend, we didn't end the campaign, but we suspended the campaign -- we suspended the campaign because we're hopeful but cautious that the dialogues can lead to some sort of common ground. >> before we get to what common ground looks like, what was dan cathy like, just to look at him face to face and to talk to? >> dan and i have spoke, mr. cathy and i have spoke on the phone prior to those meetings. he reminds me of my -- my uncle, and keep in mind i have a big family. my mom has ten brothers and sisters, and so my uncle is an evangelical minister. and at the end of the day, we don't agree on much of anything, but when i go home at christmas, he always asks me how i'm doing, how my partner -- my husband tom

is doing, we have been together 17 years, so that's a lot of christmases together. and i know that my uncle doesn't want any harm or hurt to come to me. and i truly believe in my heart dan cathy, you know, cares about everyone. he is a christian, and not all christians believe like dan cathy. and that's part of finding common ground is sitting down and putting down the picket signs to actually sit there and talk and see if we can come to some sort of understanding. and that's my goal. >> shane, i think that means a lot what you're saying. if you are having talked to him twice and have suspended your campaign, you are hopeful, what does that mean for you, for campus pride next? what is the next move? >> well this is not a political game to us. what happened to the alderman in chicago is all political and about politics. for campus pride, it is about campus safety. we have received reports, one specific report of a campus that, you know, two students called an openly gay student on campus a derogatory term while

holding up a chick-fil-a bag and saying we love chick-fil-a. this is about campus safety for us and helping make sure that all campuses that have chick-fil-as that the brand of chick-fil-a doesn't become a hate symbol. and that's our concern and that's why we're sitting down to have this dialogue and being willing to -- at least for the moment to see if we can find some common ground and to maybe find some future actions that we can both be proud of. >> so is it 20 seconds, you have a friend, they say, i'm not eating chick-fil-a anymore. you say -- >> i say, you know, i respect your opinion not to eat chick-fil-a, and right now i'm not eating chick-fil-a either, but it doesn't mean i'm not willing to sit down with the man and his company and try to find some sort of common ground. >> there you go. shane winmire of campus pride, thank you. we'll follow up with you and see where this goes. from that '70s show to the voting booth. wilmer valderrama joins me live on why he says political leaders do not take hispanic voters

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let me take you back to the race for the white house. quickly, we're advancing our read on the state of play in ohio. all together now with me, no republican, not one, has ever won the race for the white house without winning ohio. fact, as of today, president obama has stretched his lead in the buckeye state, in our cnn poll of polls. so today, here, what we're showing, the president with a six-point lead, up from his five-point lead as of yesterday. why six points now? here's why. the washington post has published a new poll showing the president building an eight-point lead in ohio. that eight-point lead, thus stretches our average, which has taken from a batch that includes washington post, four other polls. so six-point lead for obama, 52-44, in ohio. that's significant. okay. now, did you know this? today is national voter

registration day, the first ever national voter registration day. you have celebrities, you have civic organizations, grassroots groups, universities, all kinds of people encouraging folks to register and to commit to actually voting. and how is this for words of encouragement to latino americans. quote, we need for the latino community to stop the bs and understand that the latin community in america needs them to wake up and actually engage. i just don't think they understand how important it is that one vote actually does count. those strong words coming from my next guest, wilmer valderrama, actor, activist and the 2012 co-chair of voto latino. welcome. nice to meet you. >> thank you very much. how are you? >> good. i'm great. you say in that quote that latino americans, you know, may not understand that their votes actually count. why? >> yeah, i just think that a lot

of it also comes from, i mean, heritage somehow. i think for the history of a lot of our culture in the united states, they have been somewhat an invincible engine to a lot of the working class and the working community. and i think they have yet to understand that, they're just as part of this engine as any other citizen. and hard working american. and i think it is through the last decade and a half, two decades really where we have seen the growth of the hispanic and latino community in the united states and become one of the most influential, you know, masses in the united states, 50 million deep and 50,000 young latinos turning 18 every month, we're looking at a very influential mass. i think that they have yet to understand how big of a platform we have to really join the national community and the united states. >> wilmer, i'm curious, we were talking at the commercial break, you were telling me how you came to the united states from venezuela. and i'm just curious if any of this -- how personal this is for

you did you ever at one point wonder does my vote really count? >> yeah, it goes back to, you know, i was raised in venezuela. and i'm telling you understanding the best and worst of my country i grew up in and then understanding the best and the worst of the country i was born in, the united states. in seeing how many we lacked in south america and the community to really engage with a political, you know -- a political front, i think it is a disconnect i never had in venezuela and i feel like now being able to understand my platform and being able to understand my voice, i feel like it is time to say, hey, man, i'm a citizen, i live in this country like anybody else and let's really enjoy the gift we have of voting that some countries just don't really enjoy. >> i appreciate this is personal

for you. and i hear your passion. and i know you were just giving us some numbers, some statistics. let me share some as well. just 50% of latino american voters went to the polls four years ago, 2008. that was actually up from four years prior, but still well behind white voters, well behind black voters, you've been quoted as saying our political leaders don't take latinos seriously. wilmer, do you think that might be a reason why? >> well, i think that they -- they probably might not be taking it as serious as we should be taken serious because of the same fault of us not showing up to the registration dates and showing to the voting booth. this is the time and this is the opportunity, the latin community really has, to come forth and actually join this national movement. i think that if we are going to really be part of the country, if we're going to claim this as our home which we do and we're proud to be here and proud of the american flag, i think it is time for us to vote. it is time for us to register.

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[ male announcer ] 80 delicious calories. fiber one. the presidential campaigns really hit overdrive today. both mitt romney, president obama practically tripping over one another. both in new york city today. so much happening in just the course of a couple of hours. we clocked it for you beginning at 7:00 this morning, eastern time, with the president on nbc's "today" show talking education. move that clock forward until 9:00 this morning eastern time, mitt romney speaking at the clinton global initiative. 10:00 this morning, president obama talking to the united nations general assembly saying that the united states, quote, will do what we must to prevent iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. 11:00 this morning, the candidates in new york, appearances here, colliding, first you have the president and the first lady making a taped appearance on "the view." and then mitt romney sitting

down with brian williams at nbc for a live discussion on education. couple of hours later, noon, president takes his turn speaking before the clinton global initiative. i want to just play a little sound from that. this is when the president talks about the issue of human trafficking and slavery. >> when a little boy is kidnapped, turned into a child soldier, forced to kill, or be killed, that's slavery. when a little girl is sold by her impoverished family, girls my daughter's age, runs away from home or is lured by the false promise of a better life and then imprisoned in a brothel and tortured if she resists, that's slavery. it is barbaric and evil. and it has no place in a civilized world. our people and our children are not for sale. but for all the progress that we

have made, the bitter truth is that trafficking also goes on right here, in the united states. it is the migrant worker unable to pay off the debt to his trafficker, the man lured here with the promise of a job, his documents then taken and forced to work endless hours in a kitchen. the teenaged girl beaten, forced to walk the streets. this should not be happening in the united states of america. >> that was the president speaking at the clinton global initiative. now to mitt romney speaking at the same spot. want you to listen here as romney explains his view on foreign aid. >> the aim of a much larger share of our aid must be the promotion of work and the fostering of free enterprise. nothing we can do as a nation will change lives and nations more effectively and permanently than sharing the insight that lies at the foundation of america's own economy. and that is that free people

pursuing happiness in their own ways build a strong and prosperous nation. >> tackling some incredibly serious issues, but i want to let you know there was some levity at conference today, came from both candidates as former president bill clinton introduced them, take a look. you see romney and clinton standing side by side on stage together. bill clinton makes the introduction and then listen to how romney kicks off his remarks. >> thank you, mr. president. it is an honor to be here this morning and i appreciate your kind words and the introduction is very touching. if there is one thing we have learned in this election season, by the way, it is that a few words from bill clinton can do a man a lot of good. all i got to do now is wait a couple of days for that bounce

to happen. >> when president obama took the podium, he also joked about president clinton's speech at the democratic national convention. take a look. >> president clinton, thank you for your very kind introduction. though i have to admit, i really did like the speech a few weeks ago a little bit better. afterwards somebody tweeted that somebody needs to make him secretary of explaining things. although they didn't use the word things. >> want to move along, speaking of the president, really this is a key piece of legislation under his four years, the -- what we now know is obama care. we remember the day the supreme court chief justice john roberts voted in favor of the individual mandate that requires nearly

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they are the two biggest supreme court cases in recent memory, the affordable care act, and citizens united. we have heard the rulings, decisions, but now we know the real reasons behind these two landmark decisions that impact nearly every single one of us, both now and into the future. cnn senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin lays it all out in his new book "the oath, the obama white house and the supreme court." let's begin, obviously, with the oath. we remember the flub. it was january of '09. just in case anyone forgot, let's watch again. >> barack hussein obama do solemnly swear. >> i barack hussein obama do solemnly swear -- >> that i will execute the office of president to the

united states faithly. >> that i will execute -- >> faithfully the -- the office of president of the united states -- >> the office of the president of the united states faithfully. >> before we talk about the redo what happened? >> i have to say, i'm the first person to find out what really happened. it is a story about how you have to read the whole e-mail because what happened was the chief justice's assistant e-mailed precisely how he was going to divide up the words to a secretary in the office of the congressional committee that was handling the inauguration. with an attachment explaining precisely how the oath would work. that secretary either never opened it or never forwarded it or deleted it, so obama didn't know how roberts was going to divide up the words and obama kind of jumped the gun and roberts became flustered. that's really what happened. >> then they have to readminister the oath, you have the picture in the book from sometime later in the white house. this is the first time that a chief justice has ever had to

readminister the oath, correct? >> first time the oath has been readministered ever in the history of the country. >> roberts thought about bringing the text with him, it would have been the cautious thing to do but the chief justice was a proud man, goes on, obama said we're going to do it very slowly, several onlookers looked at each other with raised eyebrows. the new president was a polite man but his remark to the chief justice had an edge. what do you mean by that? >> they are incredibly similar in certain ways. they are similar generation, similar backgrounds, harvard law school, harvard law review but competitive. and they see things very differently. john roberts is a serious conservative. barack obama is a serious liberal. at that point, they didn't know about citizens united. they didn't know about the affordable care act. but there was a competition between the two of them and in their polite respectful way, they both knew it. >> let's get to the affordable care act. june. major bombshell. you were at the supreme court, i remember on the steps because we

all thought it was going to be justice kennedy with the swing vote. instead the chief justice. let me read here -- >> you're very charitable to point out i was not -- to not point out how completely wrong i was in my trpredictions. >> you asterisked in your book. >> i wanted everyone to know. my new job is to predict only the past, not the future. >> a complete nullification of the health care law on the eve of a presidential election would put the court at the center of the campaign. as chief justice, roberts felt obligated to protect the institutional interests of the court. not just his own philosophical agenda, gradually then with more urgency roberts began looking for a way out. explain. >> well, you remember the core of the argument was about does the commerce clause of article one of the constitution permit congress to pass a law that has an individual mandate, a requirement that people buy health insurance. the conservatives have argued for the duration of the litigation that, no, congress doesn't have that power.

it is unconstitutional. roberts was sympathetic to that argument, but he wanted to find a way to uphold the law so the court would not be in the center of the political campaign. so he found this secondary reason, the taxing power, that the -- the individual mandate was sustainable as a tax by congress. it is an argument that not a lot of people found terribly persuasive, but the four liberals joined with him so you had this very odd pairing of the chief justice, very conservative with the four liberal members of the court, and it not only saved the obama care law, but it kept the court out of the political fray and i think that was an important goal of chief justice roberts. >> okay. and you obviously write so much about citizens united. just quickly, have you gotten any feedback from the justices after writing all these details? >> the book only has been out for six days. i've received one note from one justice, and i would characterize that note as polite, but it was not an

endorsement of my findings or my conclusions. so it is just -- i'm one for the court, but i usually hear from them by the end -- >> called "the oath," you will be at the carter center tonight at what time? >> 7:00. >> if you're in atlanta, go find mr. toobin. always a pleasure. moving on to iran, as iran's president gets ready to speak to the united nations, there is a father on his death bed, right here, in the united states, asking mahmoud ahmadinejad to grant him one final wish. i was talking to my best friend. i told her i wasn't feeling like myself... i had pain in my pelvic area... and bleeding that wasn't normal for me. she said i had to go to the doctor. turned out i had uterine cancer, a type of gynecologic cancer.

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when it comes to paying for college, i know a lot of you can relate to this, many americans find they are either not poor enough for financial aid or rich enough to pay cash. and as president obama, mitt romney get ready to face off in the first presidential debate one week from tomorrow, christine romans digs on each man's position on helping

students pay for college. >> reporter: when jackie graduated from brown university this year, she put off going straight to medical school. instead she took a research job at sloan-kettering hospital. >> it is nice to have a paying job where i can pay back part of my student loans before going to med school and possibly adding on a lot more. >> reporter: and she had plenty of them, $100,000 worth. why? her family is middle class, her mother works in a school, her dad owns a bar. she says they're considered too wealthy to qualify for many grants, but she says not wealthy enough to have saved the money for the more than $50,000 a year to attend brown. >> you're in the middle class, you are a normal suburban family, but you don't make an o outrageous amount of money so you can't pay the outrageous tuitions. >> reporter: student loan debt hit a trillion dollars last year. even tuition for public four-year colleges rose 68% over e